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Wouldn’T Galadriel Sense If Halbrand Is Sauron?

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Episode 5 is a very juicy episode for Halbrand, so let’s get right into it! Our first sight of Halbrand is at a smithy. He has his guild crest, and he is currently working on forging a sword. The last time we saw Halbrand he was in a cell, ready to It makes no sense that Galadriel WOULDN’T tell everyone that he was Sauron. She has been searching for this guy for hundreds of years, insisting against everyone’s doubts (to the point of getting shipped off to Valinor) that Sauron is alive. So, making the assumption that Halbrand is Sauron: What are you thoughts on his motivation for going to the Southlands? Why did he seemingly change his mind? Is it because Galadriel is offering him all the things he secretly wants? Is it because he is actually trying to repent, but maybe for the completely wrong reasons?

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The text conjures the possibility of a Sauron waffling between repentance and obstinancy – could not that be behind the seemingly sincere moments where we see Halbrand alone appearing to be conflicted between courses of action? Couldn’t he have saved Galadriel in a moment of leaning toward contrition?

Sauron’s plan is already in motion, and it’s made quite clear in the show. Neither a repentant or a conflicted Sauron makes sense there. The Rings of Power have to be forged shortly and Sauron isn’t some guy who just wings it all of the time, he is a master planner. On the other hand, a deceitful Sauron would just be an utter character assassination of Galadriel, plus turn him into

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Sure, but Sauron (if he isn’t Halbrand) wouldn’t know about Halbrand and Galadriel’s conquest before going to Egerion. He would assume Adar and his army of orcs would be in charge. Then the dark priestess started calling him sauron and I was like wtf that’s supposed to be gandalf. I did not see it coming when Halbrand ended up being Sauron holy fuck. It all makes sense too, he had a hand in the creation of the elves ring, probably in all the others before he creates his own ring.

But I think that actually, Sauron will be a mysterious elf in Galadriels entourage that we haven’t met yet, working to gain the trust of the elves, failing with Galadriel, Gil-Galad & Elrond, but finally succeeding with Celebrimbor.

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Then why weren’t Galadriel and Miriel suspicious of him? Miriel, as one of the Faithful, simply decided to trust Galadriel. As for Galadriel, she is probably the only character that shares some of our perspectives on Halbrand and should have picked up some clues that he’s not being completely honest, and I believe she did indeed. And isn’t this after Sauron had started influencing Pharazôn? If so, where is he, and why wouldn’t Galadriel notice? Yeah.. I think the Halbrand is Sauron theories are approaching reddit circle jerk of wrongness territory. In the latest episode he felt a light while fighting with Galadriel that she said she felt, which all but confirms he is NOT Sauron for me because Galadriel never trusted Sauron.

When Galadriel interrogates Adar later, we learn that Sauron tortured and killed Orcs in pursuit of some elusive power. Sauron did far more than what Galadriel threatened to do, and it was that threat (to take the Orcs out into the sunlight) that got Adar talking, wasn’t it? It’s clear that Adar cares for his children, in his own twisted way.

Celebrimbor reveals that, even with Halbrand’s suggestion of adding other metals to enhance mithril’s power, the chosen shape of a crown just won’t work. Why does Galadriel not yell Elrond and celebrimbor that Hallbrand is Sauron? Why does she keep it a secret? Isn’t Saurons identity critical information she should be sharing as soon as possible?

Halbrand knows he’s got demons and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a fallen Maiar who turned away before fully succumbing to the darkness saving him from complete transformation into a Balrog which is why he tells Galadriel to leave him in peace. In The Rings of Power finale, Halbrand is revealed to be Sauron. And with no next episode for the Lord of the Rings show due for a while, we’re taking our time to acknowledge the hints he left I’m not convinced Halbrand is Sauron, but if he is then all these interactions where Galadriel insist he returns and leads the people of the Southlands will be really ironic.

I wouldn’t be surprised if

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It’s genuinely nuts how entire threads of people thought ep. 6 was pointing to Halbrand being Sauron. Literally everything that happened completely aligns with him being the lost king of the Southlands who will likely become a Nazgul. Why would Sauron save the life of Elendil during a chaotic battle, when he could have just ignored him and let him die? He wouldn’t!! He’s not The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Season 2 opens with Jack Lowden portraying Sauron, adding backstory to Charlie Vickers’ Halbrand.

I mean the only scenario that makes logical sense to me is that Galadriel drops off Halbrand at some elvish clinic and then rides off to meet Gilgalad etc herself. Some time later, Sauron takes new shape and assumes the name Halbrand. Listless, recently bodiless, and now without an army to command, Sauron contemplates his path. Enter Galadriel, who finds him at a personal crossroads of a sort, floating adrift in the sundering seas. A chance-meeting, as we say in Middle-earth. I think that was Sauron just saying that because he knew he was unrecognizable as Halbrand, and didn’t expect Adar to say “oh yeah you’re that dude Sauron I thought I killed.” Sauron was feeling cocky, and felt like making a little comment about it, not much more to it than that. They wanted us to get a sense that him and Adar have a past, and I think they succeeded at that.

Anti-Halbrand is Sauron Points: Being seemingly aimlessly out on the sea doesn’t make a lot of sense If his movement through Numenor then into middle earth is a plan, it’s overly convoluted Galadriel’s Character Development Thus Far: Primary motivation is to avenge her brother by destroying Sauron and his forces That would actually work. Halbrand as Sauron work if and only if we’re looking at genuinely remorseful Sauron who is trying to escape his evil days, and who ends up getting dragged back into them by Galadriel. Halbrand’s quote suggests to me that Bluebeardian idea of a damaged person wanting to suck the light out of good people. You can see, suddenly, a Sauron who feels the light in Galadriel, even if she doesn’t always feel it in herself, and takes warmth from it.

Sauron wouldn’t care, he’s unkillable. For Halbrand being just a roguish human from the Southlands who doesn’t like elvesGaladriel is directly helpful to his survival. She’s handling the storm better up until she gets blasted by lighting. Probably worth the effort. The Galadriel Sauron lovestory is bad – and makes no sense since Galadriel is one of the few who saw through Annatar. Also doesnt make sense that Sauron who was scared of the judgement/anger of the valar to a point that he stayed in ME to

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Canonically Sauron spends a lot of time in the 2E checking stuff out, so it makes sense he’s out traveling; I don’t think Sauron particularly cares for orcs unlike Adar; and he wanted to deceive Galadriel slash corrupt her.

And to be honest, I think that Schmilsson1’s claim is a stretch, just as you do. But composers a known to hide spoilers in their scores. Maybe Schmilsson1 heard something in the music or maybe I’m being too generous with said user. Tl,dr: I don’t buy Sauron’s music = Halbrand’s music, but I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand.